Posts by chicken little

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How do we know that humans have been around for more than 6000 years?

by inkling in

after a conversation with my dad last night, i realized that it is fairly.

easy for jws to weasel out of issues involving the fossil record because.

a) the wt has very little to say on the subject and b) witnesses are.

chicken little

I recently read the book mentioned by sir82 it was Guns germs and steel and was by Jared Diamond and it was an eyeopener. I often wondered about the hunter gatherer lifestyle of the aborigines in Australia....other areas had developed far more complicated farming technics, yet the aborigines continued with the same lifestyle until the continent was "discovered by europeans". They appear to have lived in isolation for 40,000 years.

The flood account puts mankind and its record of activity to about 4,000 years....so how did they get to Australia? They did not use boats....if they did they forgot how to build them again...odd. The story of the tower of babel is told to explain the language spread and movement of mankind...again they were building a tower! What happened when they moved away...they forgot everything they had learned and went back to gathering herbs and hunting? Odd.

The book offers a very good explaination for why some peoples flourished and became technical and others made do with what they had at hand as they had no other choices. It was not a matter of intelligence as some try to bring into the discussion...read the book.

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hi newbie to this great place

by freespirit67 in

sorry this has turned out longer than i thought.anyway i lived the life of a single mother fell away from the organisation,and eventually met a (worldly) guy who is the most loving guy i have ever met,my best friend,lover and soulmate.i was disfellowshipped 4 months ago because we live with each other and plan to get married in september,unacceptable to the society hence my disfellowshipping.it has broke my mum and dads heart and im so so sorry for this,i love them so much,but no longer want or believe in the jw beliefs.

i still believe in god but dont know where im bound as regards my faith,i really do want to have something.

apart from my mum and dad and the shunning arrangement im so happy,the happiest i have ever been in years,and my 2 youngest ones are happy as well..my eldest daughter is 16 and planning on getting baptised in july which is tearing me apart,she is so like me,but is being brainwashed by a certain crowd of witnesses,need i say anymore...my eldest son who is 18 isnt in the truth and feels the same way i do... anyway thanks for this forum and hope to hear from likeminded friends soon.

chicken little

Hello to you ,

I left the wt org after 45 years in (from age 3). I too am happier than ever in my whole life...so I wish you continued happiness and love in your life.

The witness stuff takes time to esponge.....wash it away gently, bit by bit. Your being happy is the only way to make an impact on your family...they are so deeply in that nothing you say will have any effect..but living your life and being happy does seep into their subconscience..I know from experience.

Love and hugs

chicken little

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Gas Prices In Your Area?

by sacolton in

$3.69 in oklahoma city, ok ... and going up!.

even though the new book study arrangement starts january 2009 - i wonder how many witnesses will begin to stop going this year to save on their gas budget?

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chicken little

Around about 12 dollars a gallon at the moment and rising.....we also pay 180 percent tax to register our car....so we pay three times to get a car here.....

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Worlds Apart

by truthsetsonefree in

jw
friends

we are just back from watching worlds apart.

we all thought that this is the best, most accurate movie on this topic that we have ever seen.

i hope to post more on it once i've gotten some rest.

chicken little

I have posted before and mentioned the impact of the movie over her in scandanavia, it might be of interest to you guys to think about presenting the movie in a positive light to any who you know who are still in. Explain that the movie is very true to the way witnesses live and is not condemning. It may just be what will get many young ones to go and see it.

byeeee chicken little

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Response in the UK to announcement?

by sweet pea in

jw
friends

come on guys - we're over in the us and bluesbrother seems to be the only one who has commented on the reaction to the announcement in the uk.

any other reactions from the friends?

surely you've all had your meetings by now?.

chicken little

Clapping at the announcement! Hard to believe but at least they were honest. My friend was gob smacked that I knew about it before she did. I told her brothers from bethe´ll leak it onto the net. Shock horror...noooooo

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Gas my A$$

by writerpen in

jw
friends

they only reason they have put this big change on the cost of fuel is so that they can easily come back in a year or two - just when they think this wasn't such a good idea and they're losing even more control - and say that, "well, fuel isn't as expensive now, so let's start meeting again for the book study.

".

chicken little

When we lived in Britain we had 2 kids, pioneers, no money. Walking to the meeting was not a choice. There was no other possibility when you have no money. We would walk home in the snow, late with the kids after my hubby had done his stint on the magazine counter...often last to leave. We didnt complain too much after all we read the yearbooks and ours was a piece of cake compared to our brothers in the Amazon or Africa. We must have been mad...I had over 30 in my flat for the bs and always offered tea or coffee and biscuits or cake even though we had little money. Still it was a highlight for some with nothing else to look forward to. We lived in a slum area inner London...so the meetings were everything in some peoples lives.

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Film "Worlds Apart," screened in NYC - GO SEE IT

by NYCkid in

jw
friends

hello, just want to highly recommend the danish film, "worlds apart" now being screend at the tribeca film festival in new york.

the acting is superb and the filmakers represent the witnesses accurately (to the "t") withoug making them appear fanatic.

after all, these are people sincere in their beliefs no matter how absurd.

chicken little

Yes not to hijack the thread but beards are allowed in Denmark. Sweden is a little bit more touchy on the subject. Ok in Norway. Still you can give a talk at the local assembly with a beard or goatee but not at the district convention...my hubby had to shave his off! Lip dressage is ok everywhere.

The overseers longish hair is a tad too much in the movie otherwise everything else is just soooo realistic that you feel you are back in....help!

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If anyone else is tired of the announcement, bible study change

by dinah in

jw
friends

please sign here............................ why do we even care?.

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chicken little

My husband left the same time as me and he doesnt give a #### about any kind of announcement of anything to do with the wt society. I am a little more pragmatic. I think of those who really are worn out and dare not say a word in the congs for fear of being branded weak etc. They have a little more time to think now for themselves if they choose to.

It is a big thing that shows that the wt corp is in a defensive position over for the flock...cant beat them anymore so have to wave a carrot or two. I think that it will have the opposite effect than hoped as more will miss the trinity meeting (all three rolled into one) and just make do with the wt meeting.

Shame that none of this is being implemented in poor countries immediately...that is where the food crisis and energy price crisis is really hitting hard...but who cares about them anyway..they still have to pay for the magazines etc.

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Predict How JWs Will Accept The New Announcement

by minimus in

jw
friends

will they be disturbed?.

happy?

thinking this proves the end is nearer than ever??

chicken little

My friend still in, has been lamenting going to 3 meetings a week for years, was overjoyed and said the kh broke out in clapping. I said I was very happy for her, but a little puzzled that we had toiled away for over 40 years with 3 meetings a week believing the scripture in Heb10..24,25...all the more so as the day draws near. She felt jah had anwsered her prayers..didnt have the heart to disagree..poor thing. Strange about the jubilation...maybe nobody likes the meetings anyway.

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Book Study "provision from Jehovah" quotes KM, so why cancelled by GB?

by yesidid in

jw
friends

you will notice that in both these km articles they say the cbs is "a loving arrangement from jehovah".

if that is the case it begs the question: .

what right have they to stop it?

chicken little

Some one mentioned that the problem of gas prices was part of the reason for the disbanding of a third weekly meeting. I have to comment on that as it seems that once again a corporate business is thinking in terms of money first. I think it is laughable when we hear of the experiences of brothers in yearbooks walking for miles through snake infested jungles to get to meetings and here we have our "poor" brothers in USA having to pay a bit more for gas....try europes prices...they would have you gasping! Still I dont knock less meetings....fewer the better...I just dont buy their reasoning. They probably have to give more money out to the bethel bros for getting to and fro from the meetings...that hurts!

Poor african brothers and sisters all that effort for what is really not that important anymore.